Though our time together is not the point of my post, there were several important insights we gained during our time together. For example, I was very surprised to learn, when discussing the significance of Jesus, that Sheri (who is from a Shi'a Muslim background) believed that Jesus was a uniquely “special” (her word) prophet of God’s. “Mr. Carmen,” she articulated clearly, “The Quran teaches that Mohammed was the last prophet, but Jesus is regarded as being special.” And why, according to Sheri, was Jesus regarded as being “special”? She cited two reasons (both taught in the Quran): He was born of a virgin and He performed miracles.
But what really surprised me was this: Sheri believed that Jesus had been resurrected and that He would one day return to earth! Wow! Once again, I am reminded how important it is to listen to what a person believes rather than assume it—regardless of one’s background (Islamic theology, to the best of my knowledge, denies the resurrection of Christ; though Jesus may have been crucified, He either did not die or God substituted Him on the cross with another personage.)
It was Sheri’s unexpected call today, however, that is the purpose of this post. Though our church had done a great job of getting Sheri into a small group for follow-up, I had picked up from ensuing conversations with Victor that she was becoming increasingly frustrated. Evidently the group leader lacked a bit of understanding as how to “navigate” in explaining particular Biblical truths to someone of an Islamic background. Very understandable!
“Mr. Carmen,” Sheri began, “I am confused. The group leader says that Jesus is God, but I told her the Bible says He is God’s Son. She also tells me that if I don’t believe that Jesus is God that I cannot be saved.”
So how do I begin to explain the doctrine of the Trinity to someone of Islamic background? To someone of Islamic background, hearing someone say “Jesus is God” is tantamount to proclaiming “I’m a polytheist”! Realizing this, I asked God to grant me wisdom as I proceeded.
“O.K., Sheri, let me try and explain. First, it is so important that you understand clearly that Christianity affirms the fact that God is One, even as in Islam. We do not believe that there are 3 gods. And, even as your background would affirm, we believe that God is transcendent—that He is beyond us—both as to His nature and as far as our ability to fully comprehend Him. So, that means that any analogy I might give will be more suggestive than comprehensive. When we say that Jesus is God’s Son, for example, it does not mean that God had sexual relations with someone and they produced a son. Rather, it speaks of Jesus’s special relationship to God; that, even as your son, Aran, is not you, and he is not Victor, he is, however, human. In a similar sense, as God’s Son, Jesus possesses a divine nature. Does that make sense, Sheri?”
“Yes, Mr. Carmen, that is clear. I know Jesus is God’s Son. Love is growing in my heart every day for Jesus.” Sheri was confident in her assertion.
Still, however, I needed to add some important elements to this foundation. Though I do not think someone has to “understand” the doctrine of the Trinity before coming to faith in Christ, salvation is not possible for anyone who rejects the teaching that Jesus is God’s Son—that He is the divine Son who is the “one and only” representative of God to humankind (1 Timothy 2:5). Though Sheri was still attempting to understand the relationship between God and His Son, Jesus, she had not rejected Jesus’s Sonship or the work He had accomplished on her behalf.“So, Sheri,” I continued, “as I mentioned earlier, God is infinite and, as such, our understanding of Him is limited. And our limited understanding is perhaps nowhere more apparent than when it comes to our comprehension of His nature. Christians believe that there is one God who has chosen to manifest Himself as three eternally-coexistent, yet distinct, Persons. For example, in the creation account, God says, ‘Let us make man in our image.’ This plurality of Persons becomes much clearer in the New Testament. Sheri, I know this is difficult to understand; in fact, it is something we will never fully be able to comprehend. But, God, as the infinite and all-powerful God, has chosen to manifest His existence as three, co-eternal and co-equal Persons yet while still maintaining His Unity.”
“This is beginning to become clearer, Mr. Carmen,” Sheri interjected. (I was a bit surprised by Sheri’s response! This doctrine is one of the most challenging found in the Scriptures.)
I continued. “I think this particular characteristic of God’s has some interesting application in the human experience. Since God created us in His image—as the Bible teaches—then the qualities we possess as people are, fundamentally, a reflection of His nature.
One of the things we as humans value most is relationship and, as is obvious, relationship implies multiplicity of persons. Thus, if God is a only a ‘singularity,’ then his creatures have experienced that which was unknowable to God—and I don’t think that is possible. The fact that God has chosen to exist as a tri-unity provides a foundation for the experience of relationship we value so highly.”“Yes, I see,” Sheri affirmed. “This is making things much clearer, Mr. Carmen. I know that I have much to learn and more to study. But I know I am saved (her words!). I’m sure about that sir.”
“Oh, Sheri, I know that too!” I affirmed. “In fact, the very confidence you have is a gift from God. The Bible says that it is a special work of God’s Spirit to ‘pour out God’s love into our hearts. ’ And that is what you are experiencing. God is confirming not only His love for you but that you are His.”
This Wednesday, Betsy and I will be meeting again with Victor and Sheri. Though both have so much to learn, it is such a privilege to observe “up close and personal” the working of God’s Holy Spirit in the life of those who have placed their faith in Him.
Final note: One of the classic definitions of the Trinity (or, God’s tri-unity) was given by the early 20th century theologian, Benjamin Warfield: “There is one only and true God, but in the unity of the Godhead there are three coeternal and coequal Persons, the same in substance but distinct in subsistence.” If you would like to read a very good article, check out the following link: http://www.bible.org/article/trinity-triunity-god.


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ReplyDeleteThe Trinity is difficult to understand. I like the relationship analogy but I found that using that on a college student did not capture college students as well as using the example of Water. This was shared with me a long time ago but Water or H2O has what they call a triple point. This is where water can co-exist at the liquid, solid and gaseous state at the same time in "stable equilibrium". Each state serves a purpose. Our bodies are made up of water. The liquid state serves as a way to not us from being dehydrated or a sustenance. The solid ice state brings temperatures down and serves as a protector when you think of the Glaciers. Glaciers are the largest reservoir of fresh water on the Earth next to Oceans of course. I went to wikipedia for this next sentence, glaciers are indicators of climate and are important to world water resources and sea level variation. Essentially, they serve a purpose I want to say. The last state of water, is water vapor of the gaseous state. Water vapor happens when liquid water is heated. Just a thought, when I think of water vapor, I also think of the wind. Condensation happens only when the surface is cooler. All in all, water has a triple point where all 3 states co-exist.
ReplyDeleteThink of God, God - Father, Son, Holy Spirit; 3 essences yet 1 nature God. Father sent His Son die the death we should die and live the life that we can not live because we are sinners. When the Son ascended, because of the ascension the Holy Spirit was sent to indwelling in those who believe upon the Lord Jesus Christ as Savior and King of their life. Holy Spirit is mentioned as the Counselor or Spirit of Christ. You will not be led astray from God's nature because the Holy Spirit is God. Jesus is God. God The Father who spoke creation into existence is God. 3 essences 1 God.
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ReplyDeleteVery good, "To be Deliberate!" You have surely pointed out an excellent analogy and one, perhaps, that proximates more accurately (or, more fully accentuates) the depths of the "one nature, but not same Person" nature of God's being.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I do think it is interesting that God did choose the familial analogy in initially communicating this truth to the Jewish people. As with my Muslim friends, the Jewish people, likewise, are easy to rush to a charge of "blasphemy" when saying "Jesus is God" (even as did the High Priest at Jesus's trial). This is surely understandable given the strong monotheistic basis of both religions.
The Father / Son analogy does seem to still provide a good analogy for the average person (of course not including university students here! :)) in that it allows one to comprehend--though surely not "completely"--the idea of a "same nature though not same Person" concept.
BTW, one thing that crossed my mind in contemplating your analogy (because I think it is a really good one!). I wondered, "Why didn't God try and communicate, at least initially, a more full-orbed explanation and/or analogy?" Though I may not have the answer to that one, it did cause me to pause and wonder if, on occasion, we tend to want people to understand Trinitarian doctrine more deeply than even God does...at least at the point of salvation.
For example, as well-intentioned as Sheri's small group leader is, she had indicated to Sheri that she may not be saved if she didn't believe Jesus was God. (Surely one's understanding of Trinitarian doctrine becomes clearer as one grows in the knowledge of the Word!) I think it is one thing to accept Jesus as God's Son (that He is divine and not simply "a god" or "good person / example" or whatever) and quite another to be able to spell out some of the fine points concerning the Trinity. "He who believes in the Son has life..."
What do you think?
This was a really interesting post! And the comments that followed were helpful too. I think what has helped me the most in understanding the doctrine of the trinity itself has been reading Wayne Grudem's Chapter on the Trinity from his book Bible Doctrine. In this chapter he gives 3 points:
ReplyDelete1. God is three persons
2. Each person is fully God
3. There is one God
Now I'll admit, I still have a hard time understanding the concept of the trinity but I feel like those three points are what the bible clearly teaches and they serve as 3 pillars for the doctrine when discussing illustrations and analogies.
Keep up the great work guys!